CUI or Natrelle
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tigertonix
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COOKIE
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CUI or Natrelle
Hey girlies.
At my consultation today I was offered CUI or Natrelle implants. I think I understand the difference between the 2 but wondered are the Natrelle worth the extra as it was sold to me that the only extra on the Natrelle is that they have unlimited rupture cover but they are very very unlikely to rupture?? I just want what's best but the surgeon & PCC didn't seem to favour either??
Xxx
At my consultation today I was offered CUI or Natrelle implants. I think I understand the difference between the 2 but wondered are the Natrelle worth the extra as it was sold to me that the only extra on the Natrelle is that they have unlimited rupture cover but they are very very unlikely to rupture?? I just want what's best but the surgeon & PCC didn't seem to favour either??
Xxx
AB05- Newbie BJSF Member
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I chose CUI high profiles as they seemed to ripple less than Natrelles on visual examination and rippling is something I worry about a lot!
I am fully prepared to have mine replaced sometime in my lifetime anyway, because I am yet to have children and possibly breastfeed - hence went for 10 year guarantee ones...
I am fully prepared to have mine replaced sometime in my lifetime anyway, because I am yet to have children and possibly breastfeed - hence went for 10 year guarantee ones...
kdeee- BJSF Addict
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Allergan offer 4 textured implants commonly used here in the UK
The Allergan CUI are the 4th generation implant. These are Allergans budget range and are 95% filled
The Allergan Natrelle Responsive is the premium version of the CUI with an additional bio cell layer incase of rupture. These too are a 4th generation implant and are 95% filled.
Allergans latest budget implant is the CMH. This is a 5th generation implant with a 100% fill.
Allergans Natrelle Soft Touch is the premium version of the CMH with an additional bio cell layer incase of rupture. They have a 100% fill.
The main differences between the 4th generation implants and the latest 5th generation implants is that the 4th generation implants (the CUIs and the Responsives) are softer then the fifth generation implants (the CMHs and the Soft Touch)
But.... The 5th generation implants have a lower risk of capsular contracture as well as rippling. Although not as soft as the 4th generation they are still lovely and squishy. Xx
The Allergan CUI are the 4th generation implant. These are Allergans budget range and are 95% filled
The Allergan Natrelle Responsive is the premium version of the CUI with an additional bio cell layer incase of rupture. These too are a 4th generation implant and are 95% filled.
Allergans latest budget implant is the CMH. This is a 5th generation implant with a 100% fill.
Allergans Natrelle Soft Touch is the premium version of the CMH with an additional bio cell layer incase of rupture. They have a 100% fill.
The main differences between the 4th generation implants and the latest 5th generation implants is that the 4th generation implants (the CUIs and the Responsives) are softer then the fifth generation implants (the CMHs and the Soft Touch)
But.... The 5th generation implants have a lower risk of capsular contracture as well as rippling. Although not as soft as the 4th generation they are still lovely and squishy. Xx
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Thank you both so much. More research for me I think. I have another consultation tomorrow so it's great having this information ahead of it. It's great having help like this at the touch of a keypad.
Thanks again
Thanks again
AB05- Newbie BJSF Member
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To clarify- mine are CMH (Allergan budget range) :) xx
kdeee- BJSF Addict
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Thanks kdee. It's good hearing what you are going for as my consultation tomorrow is with Mr Meleagros at Transform & I see you have chosen to go with him already. I hear he's quite straight to the point. How did u find him? xx
AB05- Newbie BJSF Member
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Just to add babe EVERY implant has the ability to rupture at ANY time...often its like a lucky dip! So you should ALWAYS be prepared for the possibility of this happening after having breast implants along with CC which can happen at any stage at all after being implanted.
A booby fund started as soon as you can is a very wise thing to do. None of us know when we might need to change our implants and if you have the money available and ready for the eventuality...there's nothing to worry about then. Xx
A booby fund started as soon as you can is a very wise thing to do. None of us know when we might need to change our implants and if you have the money available and ready for the eventuality...there's nothing to worry about then. Xx
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Sounds like a great idea!!!! Sorry to ask more questions but my doctor gave me a name of a private surgeon to see do you think it's really worth looking at a private surgeon over somewhere like Transform? It does seem like they are approx £1,000 more but I don't want to scrimp on something so important. Thanks again xxx
AB05- Newbie BJSF Member
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Not that Transform is scrimping I just don't want to make a decision due to price and ooooo kdee I've seen some of Mr Meleagros's work & hers looked AMAZING!!!!! xxx
AB05- Newbie BJSF Member
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I chose Mr.Meleagros because he has done so many BAs and although he is not BAAPS registered- he is on specialist surgical register on General Medical Council and member of 3 professional bodies. He is very experienced surgeon all round and involved in lot of research side of things too (not BA related though!). Coming from medical background myself I know that it's rather expensive being member of various professional bodies and sometimes you just have to draw the line somewhere- so I don't hold it against him not being BAAPS registered.
I have found only one BA related complaint against him, which he corrected free of charge whilst doing my background search on him.
On consultation he can come across as quite abrupt but I like that he is straight forward and honest and told me what are best options for me in his opinion. Some other surgeons I saw gave me choices (unders & overs, incision) and although some people like to have them- I want an experts opinion on the BEST option available to me based on my stats. I am not qualified or experienced enough to make some of these decisions for me (I'm not a surgeon!) and he gave me everything written down to take home of what was discussed and he didn't cut corners and answered all my questions.
Boobie fund is good to have and totally agree with Cookie on that one xx
I have found only one BA related complaint against him, which he corrected free of charge whilst doing my background search on him.
On consultation he can come across as quite abrupt but I like that he is straight forward and honest and told me what are best options for me in his opinion. Some other surgeons I saw gave me choices (unders & overs, incision) and although some people like to have them- I want an experts opinion on the BEST option available to me based on my stats. I am not qualified or experienced enough to make some of these decisions for me (I'm not a surgeon!) and he gave me everything written down to take home of what was discussed and he didn't cut corners and answered all my questions.
Boobie fund is good to have and totally agree with Cookie on that one xx
kdeee- BJSF Addict
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You're absolutely right not to put any amount of money before your body babe afterall.... Its the surgeon who will be putting that scalpel to your body and rearranging your body shape for life! So putting money aside and focusing on ONLY that is the right way forward.
The private surgeon your GP recommended will be a BAAPS surgeon hun. These surgeon have held a consultant position in the UK for a 6 year period, they also will be on the GMC specialist register of 'plastic surgery' and then go on to further themselves in surgery gaining a FRCS qualification. This is the basic qualification a potential BAAPS surgeon needs.
Surgeons then 'cherry pick' so to say, the best surgeons to be become BAAPS members which is a free membership. They will have to have two sponsors willing to vote them in. If they manage to get in, they then become a 'trainee member' they continue with their training within BAAPS being trained by their more experienced peers in all the latest techniques there are available to surgeons doing cosmetic surgery on breasts, so they are very focused on 'breast surgery' once its felt a surgeons technique is up to par only then will a trainee become a full BAAPS member. If they don't cut it... They simply don't get in!
But the training doesn't stop there.... Even after becoming a BAAPS member these surgeons are monitored throughout their membership and undergo more training as new techniques hit the industry - for example, the polyeurothane implants take great skill to be placed because their surface actually embed itself immediately to the breast tissue so it doesn't go through the dropping process. Its positioned and stay we're its placed, hence the need for great skill and we've only seen the most senior of surgeons within BAAPS/BAPRAS using these implants 'so far'.
Large commercial clinics such as Transform and THG don't tend to attract these surgeons at all.
These surgeons are either private as is the one your GP recommended, or working in small clinics such as Spire, MyBreast, BMI, Elite....etc.
There are some very good surgeons working for the large commercial clinics that many women are very happy with but you just don't have the assurance that you have when you choose a BAAPS/BAPRAS surgeon, for example, we've found here that a few surgeons in the large clinics are only 'general surgeons' so if you choose to go down that route, at the very base line you're going to NEED to check their surgeons qualifications and that they're on the specialist register for plastic surgery. You can do this through the GMC register.
With BAAPS/BAPRAS there's no need for these checks.... You KNOW you're getting a quality surgeon. Xx
The private surgeon your GP recommended will be a BAAPS surgeon hun. These surgeon have held a consultant position in the UK for a 6 year period, they also will be on the GMC specialist register of 'plastic surgery' and then go on to further themselves in surgery gaining a FRCS qualification. This is the basic qualification a potential BAAPS surgeon needs.
Surgeons then 'cherry pick' so to say, the best surgeons to be become BAAPS members which is a free membership. They will have to have two sponsors willing to vote them in. If they manage to get in, they then become a 'trainee member' they continue with their training within BAAPS being trained by their more experienced peers in all the latest techniques there are available to surgeons doing cosmetic surgery on breasts, so they are very focused on 'breast surgery' once its felt a surgeons technique is up to par only then will a trainee become a full BAAPS member. If they don't cut it... They simply don't get in!
But the training doesn't stop there.... Even after becoming a BAAPS member these surgeons are monitored throughout their membership and undergo more training as new techniques hit the industry - for example, the polyeurothane implants take great skill to be placed because their surface actually embed itself immediately to the breast tissue so it doesn't go through the dropping process. Its positioned and stay we're its placed, hence the need for great skill and we've only seen the most senior of surgeons within BAAPS/BAPRAS using these implants 'so far'.
Large commercial clinics such as Transform and THG don't tend to attract these surgeons at all.
These surgeons are either private as is the one your GP recommended, or working in small clinics such as Spire, MyBreast, BMI, Elite....etc.
There are some very good surgeons working for the large commercial clinics that many women are very happy with but you just don't have the assurance that you have when you choose a BAAPS/BAPRAS surgeon, for example, we've found here that a few surgeons in the large clinics are only 'general surgeons' so if you choose to go down that route, at the very base line you're going to NEED to check their surgeons qualifications and that they're on the specialist register for plastic surgery. You can do this through the GMC register.
With BAAPS/BAPRAS there's no need for these checks.... You KNOW you're getting a quality surgeon. Xx
Last edited by COOKIE on 14th January 2014, 11:27 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Typo)
Re: CUI or Natrelle
Ive just read my booklet i got, the narelle one and im soooo confused
ITs says the natrelle warranty does not apply to the following and lists alot including
Removal of implants due to capsular contraction
I thought u got the implants replaced with CC, I never i kept same size and they were good to reuse xx
ITs says the natrelle warranty does not apply to the following and lists alot including
Removal of implants due to capsular contraction
I thought u got the implants replaced with CC, I never i kept same size and they were good to reuse xx
tinkerbell24- BJSF Elite Member
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There is no free replacement for implants for CC from Allergan Tink only rupture.
CC will be covered by the clinic. Xx
CC will be covered by the clinic. Xx
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i would always go with the superior ones. they get put in your body so why not have the best was my thinking x
Blueeyedsoul13- BJSF Elite Member
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I have Allergan Natrelle Soft Touch implants and I have to say I love the way they feel! They're soft but not as soft as the responsives (doesn't make sense because of the name haha) and they feel really squishy and nice! I got these implants because my surgeon highly recommended them. He said that if i could afford it then i should definitely get these. Also, he really prefers using these because he said they give a better look.
I, myself, don't think i agree with this though because i couldn't tell which type implants all the girls had on here.. So there can't be that much difference looks-wise haha!
I just thought i'd give my little input here :)
Babe, it's completely your decision.. I wanted the Soft touch Natrelles because it was what my surgeon strongly advised.. But some surgeons will have no opinion regarding CUIs or Natrelles. I also wanted the lowest rupture rate so i thought i'd pay a little extra and have that extra piece of mind :)
Good luck with your decision, babe!!
Take care x x x x x x
I, myself, don't think i agree with this though because i couldn't tell which type implants all the girls had on here.. So there can't be that much difference looks-wise haha!
I just thought i'd give my little input here :)
Babe, it's completely your decision.. I wanted the Soft touch Natrelles because it was what my surgeon strongly advised.. But some surgeons will have no opinion regarding CUIs or Natrelles. I also wanted the lowest rupture rate so i thought i'd pay a little extra and have that extra piece of mind :)
Good luck with your decision, babe!!
Take care x x x x x x
tigertonix- BJSF Elite Member
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Yip cookie just read over my notes!! Got it now as u said my aftercarecwith my surgeon covers my CC not the implant warranty xx
tinkerbell24- BJSF Elite Member
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Thank you all so much. So much to think about. It really does help hearing everyone's views & decisions. I'm off to do some study & think I'll make an appointment with the private surgeon as well then I've covered all bases.
Xxx
Xxx
AB05- Newbie BJSF Member
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Natrelle all day and night for me! I want the best for my body, not the budget range. Especially when it's going into your body x
Princess_x- BJSF Elite Member
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I had Nagor co-gel (anatomicals). Although I am fully aware further surgery is more than likely in the future, I wanted one of the best implants for now :) xx
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COOKIE wrote:The Allergan CUI are the 4th generation implant. These are Allergans budget range and are 95% filled
I thought they were less than that - about 85% ?
ravenxwaves- BJSF Addict
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Nope definitely 95%. They a cohesive implant.
Just brought up the first thing I could see 'cos I'm knackered and can't be bothered scanning my files lol. But I know its 95%
This is from Transforms info
Just brought up the first thing I could see 'cos I'm knackered and can't be bothered scanning my files lol. But I know its 95%
This is from Transforms info
The 95% is the CUI and the 100% is the CMH in the Allergans budget range. XxTransform wrote:CUI implants:
- Transform offers a 10-year warranty against rupture and severe capsular contracture* in CUI implants.
- A popular high quality option for breast augmentation.
- Manufactured in US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved premises.
- CUI implants use FDA approved silicone gel.
- 146 separate quality checks ensure exceptional safety standards.
- The final stage of production involves dry heat sterilisation for 30 hours.
- The outer shell consists of 5 protective layers.
- There are 70 size, shape and projection options within the range.
- Choose from a 95% or 100% gel fill.
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thanks hun - my PCC told me they were 85% and had the CUIs and allegens out on the table infront of me, the former definitely seemed more deflated than the latter. Weird. Here's me wishing i got CUIs because they're more squishy lol but in reality not that much of a difference!
ravenxwaves- BJSF Addict
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PCCs know nothing hun. The things I've heard them tell women to make themselves look like they know what they're talking about is ridiculous.
You'd think given the job they're in they'd at least do their homework so they're giving potential patients the 'correct' information wouldn't you. Xx
You'd think given the job they're in they'd at least do their homework so they're giving potential patients the 'correct' information wouldn't you. Xx
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the clinics themselves are doing a sloppy job of employing them in the first place, it's ridiculous
ravenxwaves- BJSF Addict
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Mine are the Allergan Natrelle Soft Touch :) I just went with what my surgeon advised having researched manufacturer first and locating what surgeon used these implants . I'm delighted xx
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