Has any one had rippling and managed to fix them?

Hi, 

I have just uploaded an avatar showing my current boobies (!) and a bit of my frame, they are not so bad in a bra but without one, they ripple really badly, it's like there are finger marks at the top. The rippling is also palpable as well as visible. 

I thought I would take a photo of me and my breasts as I don't think they are that big as I am quite tall and I think I also need to go up at least one cup size to fill in the skin where I put on weight when I breastfed and then lost that weight after I stopped breastfeeding. 

It started about 3 months after I started breastfeeding so I think it's where my tissue is being lost at the top of my breasts. 

I was quite slim and small before my first BA (34B/32C) so I didn't have a huge amount of breast tissue on top of my breasts.

I am currently 460cc with round moderate profile overs and measure 32e but I was hoping to go up to 32f with xhp anatomical unders. It's not that I want to be huge, I do like being in proportion, and I like my current look in clothes but I also think it would be prudent to fill in the excess skin if I am not having a lift, and to avoid then having another operation afterwards? Also I am being a bit greedy, I would love slightly wider breasts and more of a natural slope at the top..

Has anyone had this kind of op before? I have found the very lovely Dr Michael Payne at THG who suggested anatomical unders xhp or hp but does anyone else do this kind of op and did you go slightly or much bigger but with a different type implant?

Dr Payne has ordered 500-525ccs according to the PCC which I can't find on the catalogue for XHP anatomicals and I am also worried this may be a bit small because I will be going with unders and also I am worried this may not be enough extra to fill in the rippling on top? My current projection is about 6.5cm and I was thinking I would need the same projection with a re-aug?

Also if I don't wear a push up bra my breasts don't seem so big in clothes so if I go up one cup size it will be the same size as if I am wearing a push up padded bra at the moment?

If anyone has had rippling and had them fixed or had a re-aug from Dr Payne I would love to hear from you.

Am hoping to go through with the op (have paid in full already!) but just wanted to hear back from any others who may have had the same or had rippling, and had them fixed. 

Best wishes xxx

Don't go thinking you loose volume with unders. You don't. ...... and the implants you're considering are BIG.

going under will undoubtedly sort the upperpole rippling though.....yes. ....

i can't help much more but your avi is fab. The size you are now is big but in proportion. ...
best wishes
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thank you, so you think if i went with 500-525 it would be enough extra just to push up the boobs a little bit and fix the rippling. because if I get a little uplift with a bra (like I am wearing) the rippling is gone. 

I think Dr Payne wants to be conservative because he doesn't want me to look fake or out of proportion and I do trust his judgement. 

I would love to go for 560cc though and hope he will agree because that would be the same projection as I have and just 100cc more. xx

That's a big implant for your frame. But if you're wanting 'wider' boobs do check the dimensions in the catalogue. Ask the clinic what anatomicals you're having. Are they allergens budget range? Allergans 410 range (premiums) are Mentors? Or polyeurothanes? 

Once you know which implants you're having and it is important that you know you can then check dimensions. 

I say this because as a low profile has a much wider width than an extra high profile, so as the profile goes up from low to moderate to high and to extra high the narrower the profile will go so it's these dimensions you're wanting to ensure are wider than what you have. Having more CCs isn't necessarily going to give you wider boobs it all depends on how those CCs are distributed through the implant so do check the width between the two implants. 

As for rippling? the majority of women whether they have overs or partials can 'feel' some degree of rippling, especially when leaning forward in the inner side of the cleavage but it can't be seen. So as long as it can only be felt and not 'seen' nothing will be done to sort that out and it's not a bother to those that have it anyway. I had rippling I could feel leaning forward in the inner cleavage after my first op. When I had the uplift though and the skin was tight (still is) the rippling now can't even be felt at all. 

It can however be seen if you lose a lot of weight post-op or lose volume from the Breast after breast feeding. Filling the breast out with a larger implant can fix the rippling, so you should be fine babe as long as you're happy with larger boobs. Xx

hi Cookie 

I have no idea what type of implant I am having - I think they're called natrelles  but I can't find 500-525ccc's on the catalogue in xhp or hp but maybe I havent looked carefully enough.

but I saw someone with round extra high projection implants over the muscle in real life today at 560cc and they looked really fake. Not the look I would like but do you think anatomicals in the same size but with xhp and under the muscle would look ok and not fake? because there wouldnt be the bolted on look presumably because of the slope being more natural.

I also havent seen anyone with xhp anatomicals despite trying my best to find them online and am worried because I really want to avoid looking fake, and have no idea what they look like in person or photos.. do you know anyone who might have had them and might be willing to share? am at this stage thinking of going for round moderates but in a bigger size because I don't want the fake look at all.

 I have a high end job which I love with all my heart and I deal with a lot of really discerning and elderly people who would not trust me anymore if I looked obviously fake, and also dont want to attract negative attention from looking fake/really prefer the natural/classic look.

i really like dr teitelbaum's anatomicals before and afters but he seems to use the moderate projection ones. which makes me think they and the high projection anatomicals look natural, but not sure about xhp anatomicals as I haven't seen any...

do you also need to match the existing projection of your entire breast to the new implant or do you take some off for existing tissue that might be covering the implant? Don't want to go too low projection and get droopy skin.. 

dr payne also said i could go for round implants under the muscle if i want but i've seen online some women ripple even with under the muscle and i know with the anatomicals they rippled a lot less when I held them up.
and because I am only a size 8 now and not much breast tissue on upper pole don't want to risk it or to then have the upper pole round look.

will go for 525ccs anatomicals if they exist if the projection is enough as I think that sounds like a reasonable size, but if not, will go for 560ccs with xhp if Dr Payne agrees. xx

When you say the ladies Breast implants looked 'fake' it's VERY important to know that any pics before the six month marker have the potential to look fake - this is because they're still new and healing. Unless the implant is far too large for their body frame, no Breast implants will look fake 'AFTER HEALING'. 

I think Loui, had XHP anatomicals. I'm unsure whether or not she's willing to share with Newbies though, so do check her 'picture status' under her profile pic before asking. 

I'll be having full height, moderate profile anatomicals, but not out of choice. After having my BWD taken into account my surgeon decided these would help give me the best fit for a natural look. But you're not me babe and you're not the lady with the XHPs, or the lady with 560CCs. You're YOU and your body is unique to you, so what's right for me, or the other ladies may not necessarily be right for you. This is something your surgeons needs to help you with if you're at all confused. 

You do not need to match your existing projection at all. You can have whatever projection you like 'as long as it's safe for your body to accommodate the amount of volume being placed' again, this is all down to dimensions and your surgeon will have measured you up for that. 

Round Breast implants do not cause rippling. The lack of Breast tissue ir volume loss over time as Breasts sag are a couple of causes for rippling, but as long as you're having partials if you have very little to no breast tissue and maintain your body weight post-op and look after your boobs, you really shouldn't have to worry about rippling at all. MOST men no matter the placement after healing and softening can 'feel' some degree of rippling when leaning forward either in the inner cleavage, or the outer side of the Breast. This is totally normal. VISIBLE rippling after a Breast Augmentation though is something I've not seen here from over 8,000 women, aside from women who have had implants in for a very long time or after Breast feeding. Other than that, I've never come across visible healing from any of our ladies. No matter profile, placement, volume or shape of implant. 

If rippling is a concern of yours though then do ensure you're having the 4th generation implants. These would be the Allergan Soft Touch in Allergans rounds, the Nagor Impleo in Nagors rounds, the Allergan 410 if you're having anatomicals or any of the Polyeurothane.  

This is im presuming that you're having the premium implants with you mentioning Natrelles. 

If you're having a budget implants then Allergans CMH rounds 

All of these implants have a 100% fill and called highly cohesive gel Implants as apposed to the older cohesive Breast implants. 

No I plant will cause rippling given its in the right placement, with the right amount of volume and and the right profile. The shape, whether anatomical or round doesn't matter. When placed in the Breast a round implant does take on an anatomical form anyway. 

If you've been advised you're having Natrelle anatomical implants then you're going to be looking for the Allergan 410 Breast implant catalogue. You should be able to find the dimensions of the implant there.

But please sweetheart, don't compare your body to that of anyone else's. It's just not how this surgery works and if you go about having your Breast Augmentation using this method, the lady you likened your wants for from your Breast Augmentation may have an excellent result from their surgery, but you may get a VERY different result and may not be happy at all with your choices, but if YOU make all the choices against that of your surgeons you may find your aftercare void. So if you did have any problems, the cost of revision is all yours. 

The best thing to do would be to discuss this further with your surgeon lovely and come to an agreement with them, rather than making decisions yourself for what might be the best for 'you' xx

Hi Cookie,

I looked on Natrelle's online catalogue and the dimensions are noted below for the full height, anatomicals, I would either go for the FF or XHP. 

Natrelle 410 dimensions and catalogue information

Full height full projection 535 cc fill, 14.0 cmwidth, height 14.5 projection 5.6 cm
Full height, full projection 595cc, 14.5 cm width, 15.0 cm height, and 5.8 cm projection 

Full height extra full projection 495 cc fill, 13.5 cm width, 14.0 cm height and projection 6.2 cm
Full height extra full projection 560cc, 14.0 cm width, 14.5 cm height, and projection 6.5 cm
Full height extra full projection, 615cc 14.5 cm width height 15.0cm and projection 6.7 cm

There aren't any that are 500-525cc, in either the xhp or hp full height range which worries me, as apparently these are what the surgeon has ordered. So I am worried he is now going for rounds, instead of anatomicals, and if not, that he has ordered the 535cc or 495cc which would be not enough projection for me from my amateur measurements.

And I have to change his mind before the surgery as he needs to sign off on the implant before it is ordered. 

Have already paid in full so am worried that if he doesn't change his mind I will not get the projection and fill that I need to fill out the rippling from b/feeding. and may then have to do another re-aug down the line..

From my research the minimum I think I need is 560cc xhp and going for the FF either 535 or 590cc is not an option because the projection is just too much smaller than what I currently have. I also don't want to go narrower than what I have, I ideally would like to go slightly wider, but if not, am happy to stay at same width that I am..

My current dimensions are below: 

width - 14.0 cm, projection 9/10cm if I measure from the outside or 8 cm if I measure from the inside? (might be doing something wrong or not measuring correctly perhaps).

This is from my tape measure(not a professional measure!). 

I apparently have 460cc round moderate overs, but the volume is mostly in the lower pole.. I did get rippling about 3 months after starting breastfeeding and it got worse as I continued, and I think I am smaller than I used to be, so I might have lost a lot of upper pole tissue from that.

Could it be that I am measuring the projection wrong? 

My extra consult is on 11th Jan and I guess I will have to wait to find out my correct projection and implant options then...

Also the lady with the round extra high projection 560 overs, they really were sticking out and looked very big for her frame, but I think they looked good on her, but just would not be suitable for me, because I wouldn't want to look obviously fake for social/work reasons. I also had round high projections before and hated them so badly I had another re-aug as soon as I had saved up to moderate rounds because I didn't like looking fake..

Have been told by one surgeon that it is possible I do not have 460cc, or that maybe I've lost a lot of breast tissue from b/feeding. 

But I agree, each person is different, and the same size would look different on another person, and I also don't know what her existing size would have been before the BA, also also because Loui has xhp anatomicals and they don't look bolted on at all/shelf like at all, am happy to go for 560cc or even 615cc if I have to, if that would fix the rippling.

Thanks for your help, will let you know how it goes x x x

have seen two proper sets of anatomicals now, they look amazing whether in xhp or moderate projection, so natural. honestly, I would now even have known they were implants. 

So am super pleased that is what I am going for and hope the surgeon will agree as I would love to look that natural, and with the rippling gone even better.

I am very sure that anatomicals are better for rippling because when I held up even the brand new 'chip' implants, in rounds, there was some rippling, and with the anatomicals they didn't. And because I lost tissue on top half of my breast, the fact that anatomicals are tapered must surely help reduce the rippling as well.

Am very grateful that Dr Payne suggested these initially, and hope to be able to have them at my op and that my initial worries did not put them off. 

Why did I try to mess with the work of a breast genius?! :) 

Nadia xxx

Round implants inside the Breast DO take on an anatomical shape and the silicone is distributed within the shape of your Breast to create the shape of an anatomical implant. 

I'm having trouble linking right now, but if you're on our FB page you'll find an X-ray, to show how alike both rounds and anatomicals are when within the Breast. 
This is opposed to being pinched by two fingers which would create the illusion of rippling, but this isn't actually the case when inside your body. 

We do have a thread here somewhere with the pic I brought to the forum years ago but I'm unable to find it right now and if anyone does and can link to it this would be very helpful. So it's very wrong to suggest a round would cause rippling in this way. 

With very little or no Breast tissue at all, the top ridge of the implant may be visible. Even if you opted for partials. This is a very different thing to rippling. 

Take a look at all the avatars on the forum babe. Can you guess which placement each woman had along with what shaped implant she has?

I can't and there are many slim women who having lost volume from the upper pole achieve beautiful natural looks from a round implant. So if your surgeon has suggested a round implant for you I really wouldn't worry about it. For the majority the muscle which acts as a nice cushion over the implant replacing Breast tissue more often than not hides the upper part of the implant. 

Those who have the 'bolted on look' or the 'very rounded, fake look' are 9 times out of 10 what the patient has actually requested from their surgery. Our own moderator Mrsball here is testament to that having undergone 3 surgeries stretching the skin as she goes along and then opting for a larger implant until now when she has the desired 'fake' look she wanted. This was her choice. So you see....those with that sort of look have most likely asked for it rather than it being a surgeons original suggestion or any kind of mistake. 


As I said...in 5 years and over 8000 women, I could count on one hand how many have had 'visible' rippling.

If you've been reading about rippling do check to see if you're reading American websites. They mostly use saline Breast implants and are much more likely to ripple than the advancements in silicone implants, the highly cohesive and polyeurothane especially. 

When is your op Jen? You should get yourself a ticker babes for your signature so you can count down the days!  If you'd like one. Just have a look in the stickys at the top of forum > FAQs and support section of the forum > forum ticker. 

It's easy to follow using the instructions in thr thread and is done in two minutes! Xx

Hi Cookie,

I have rippling because I breastfed a really hungry baby exclusively. I never got rippling before but it happened 3 months afterwards and got worse as I continued. But I wanted to do my best as a mother so I continued, even though it was silly now looking back, but you never put yourself first when you have children I suppose.

But also I just need to be really extra careful because I put on a lot of weight when pregnant, and then when I lost it after I stopped breastfeeding, that might have contributed to my skin being extra thin, so I just don't want to take any chances and would prefer to go for anatomicals if possible to reduce the risk of rippling and also potentially looking fake even further. I am also only a size 8, at the moment, and I've heard from other ladies who are slim that anatomicals are better suited are more likely to have a natural slope at the top.

Dr Payne recommended anatomicals, because of the rippling, because they look more natural and also because it apparently creates a bit of an uplift, without the scarring, (see Amy Childs re-aug) and now I have seen a few anatomicals and I know what projection they have had, they all look so amazing, I am totally sold.

I was initally worried because when you instantly google anatomicals online, a lot of surgeons advocate against it, and some women complain they didn't get the look they wanted, or that the implant rotated just from mopping the floor for example, but after seeing Dr Payne again he explained that he uses tall implants which reduce the incidence of rotation, except if the person is not careful in first 6 weeks of surgery or there is some kind of force applied, it is extremely unlikely to rotate.

But he also said I could go for rounds if I want, but having seen before and afters, and knowing I want a more natural look, I would love to go for anatomicals. 

I am just getting to trust my own instincts and follow my own path in life, and don't want to look fake and that I have implants for the rest of my life, so that's my reason for preferring them and hoping Dr Payne agrees to go for anatomicals. If he doesn't, I would be really sad and maybe might even go for a different surgeon except if it was for a medical reason (e.g. he now thinks the implant would rotate or would be unsuitable).

But I know some women like the look of having high projection, or very large implants and like you said, some women might pursue that look, and prefer it.

Hi Cookie, 

thinking about it, I don't think my breasts are that bad. I think it's just where I've been in a really emotionally damaging relationship for a long time my perception of how I looked at myself was really messed up. 

Yes, there is rippling but apart from that, they are an attractive shape with a bit more lower pole fullness than upper pole, but I think that makes them more natural looking and I prefer that look anyway, and I can always wear a push up bra if I want more emphasis. (Plus apparently the best proportion is to be 55/45%). 

I don't have ptosis and it's nice that I can go with rounds or anatomicals, so I will wait and see what is best.. At least with round moderates I would know that 525cc's would be a nice look for my frame and enough projection.

If I can get a female friend to take a photo of me, in a bra I will try but I think I am in proportion at the moment and I don't want to look ridiculous. 

I also have been thinking I don't need to go to 560cc, I probably have natural breast tissue left covering the existing implant as so I don't think I need to go to the same exact projection as I currently am with the next implant that would go under the existing tissue anyway. 

I am finally starting to like myself as I am, and I don't want to attract the same kind of person again who likes really big boobs, so maybe 525cc's if that will fix the rippling if it's under the muscle will be ok anyway! 

which is a really long and roundabout way of saying I think my surgeon knew best and had the best recommendation!! feeling silly!