Natrelles Vs Motiva
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Natrelles Vs Motiva
Right ladies, I kinda want to put this to bed, because its worrying some girls for nothing. This has stemmed from The Hospital Group. Until very recently it seems, they ONLY used to use Allergan, be it CUI or Natrelle. Now, it seems they have another brand on the shelf, the Motiva. This does NOT mean that the Natrelle is a second rate implant. It is still a premium brand, and perfectly safe. Yes, there are variances between the two, and after doing your own research, you may come to feel that one is better for you over the other. However, this should be a discussion and agreement that you come to between you and your surgeon. A quick look on the brands websites says to me that Motiva are advertising these at 'active' women, using the 'naturally textured shell' edge, which is where perhaps where the higher encapsulation thing comes from. I cant speak to this as I haven't don't enough research, but for me, the fact that THG are still using both (and charging the same amount) tells me that there is NOTHING wrong with the Natrelles.
This is how they rack up according to THG:
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I will be following up on this with THG, whether that be I get some time on the phone with someone, or bringing it up at my next appointment on 25th Sept. But please, don't worry yourselves thinking you've had/are about to have a dodgy implant. They're not!!
Obviously correct me if I'm wrong if someone finds proof otherwise.
This is how they rack up according to THG:
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I will be following up on this with THG, whether that be I get some time on the phone with someone, or bringing it up at my next appointment on 25th Sept. But please, don't worry yourselves thinking you've had/are about to have a dodgy implant. They're not!!
Obviously correct me if I'm wrong if someone finds proof otherwise.
Charlii- Moderator
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Thanks Charlii! I'm in contact with my surgeon's PA because I don't have any written aftercare so far, so may raise this with her too next time I email her :-)
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Natrelles have textured shells?
kezjb- BJSF Addict
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Following with interest as having natrelles and also 'active'
kezjb- BJSF Addict
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Well done charli. I think it was a very irresponsible comment for the surgeon/nurse to make...they are lucky they don't have allergan on their backs for libel!!
Mammamia- BJSF Elite Member
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Yes. Natrelle's are still a fantastic implant. Motiva are just newer x
Princess_x- BJSF Elite Member
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How did this all start then? Tbh Motiva must surely be paying somehow for the extra cc cover?
They don't do anatomical anyway so at least I don't have to worry about making the right decision :)
They don't do anatomical anyway so at least I don't have to worry about making the right decision :)
kezjb- BJSF Addict
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Both the Natrelle and Motiva have textured shells. Motiva are trying to sell on the fact that theirs is not achieved by 'sandblasting' for want of a better phrase.
" Textured surfaces have been manufactured by projecting salt, sugar or other particles on the implant shell. Lately, several studies have shown that aggressive textures, which are typically obtained with such materials, have secondary effects (1, 2), including women with active lifestyles.
Motiva Implant Matrix® SilkSurface® and VelvetSutface® are unique surfaces obtained without the use of foreign materials like salt or sugar, with a controlled process designed for a better biocompatibility. Additionally, these nano-surfaces promote a more natural interaction between the implant and the surrounding tissues, accommodating the implant to the normal movement of the breast.(3,4)" [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
There is plenty of information available on both the brands websites. But I agree with Mammamia on this, it was an incredibly irresponsible comment for a nurse/surgeon to make without facts and figures to back themselves up.
" Textured surfaces have been manufactured by projecting salt, sugar or other particles on the implant shell. Lately, several studies have shown that aggressive textures, which are typically obtained with such materials, have secondary effects (1, 2), including women with active lifestyles.
Motiva Implant Matrix® SilkSurface® and VelvetSutface® are unique surfaces obtained without the use of foreign materials like salt or sugar, with a controlled process designed for a better biocompatibility. Additionally, these nano-surfaces promote a more natural interaction between the implant and the surrounding tissues, accommodating the implant to the normal movement of the breast.(3,4)" [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
There is plenty of information available on both the brands websites. But I agree with Mammamia on this, it was an incredibly irresponsible comment for a nurse/surgeon to make without facts and figures to back themselves up.
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Cheers Charlii
sharonmcc1979- BJSF Addict
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Thanks Charlii, reads a lot like marketing jargon!
kezjb- BJSF Addict
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Thanks Charli ,
Will be watching with interest. X
Will be watching with interest. X
mirren001- Moderator
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Thanks I'm paying the difference with my revision and going for the anatomicals which are the natuerlles, do they do this shape in the furry brazilian? X
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The furry Brazilians are an entirely different type of implant, and I'm not so read up on them. But if you ask in a new thread I'm sure someone can respond.
Charlii- Moderator
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Thanks I just read they are good for anatomicals as they are less likely to rotate, but I am not sure if my surgeon who is doing my revision is trained as they take more skill I think to place x
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I can have natrelle again or motiva if I have reop
My surgeon is more than happy with natrelle but he can get motiva cheaper than natrelle IF he buys in bulk xx
My surgeon is more than happy with natrelle but he can get motiva cheaper than natrelle IF he buys in bulk xx
tinkerbell24- BJSF Elite Member
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Well there you have the explanation then, I would think.... At least tinkerbells surgeon is open about it!!
Mammamia- BJSF Elite Member
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And that's a huge point to consider when we look to these big clinics - they're out for themselves and the money first of all. That's not to say they won't look after you, but they're out for a profit. This is why we have to make sure we do all our own research and come to the best conclusion for you. And we'll be here to help along the way!
Charlii- Moderator
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I think a lot of this is down to pricing and little else to be honest. A lot of the MYA girls have emailed me via my blog asking why they are using Mentor rather than Naturelles and it's the exact same thing, I got talking to someone at Fitzroy and they said it's purely down to cost. The Motiva are just cheaper for THG and I would assume that like MYA they will get an even better discount if they make this their only premium range implant so in time will phase out the Naturelles. They told me they feel that the performance of both is very similar so it's about driving prices down.
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Yip my surgeon now works for Nuffield (which by the way their lifetime aftercare isn't what it's said to be so get it all in writing) but I went to him private, I would get natrelle again xx
tinkerbell24- BJSF Elite Member
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Oh Charlii you hit the nail on the head research it's all down to thay isn't it cx
tinkerbell24- BJSF Elite Member
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Thank you!! Cleared a few things up xx
Lauramumof3- Active BJSF Member
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Just giving this one a BUMP so the newbies can see
Charlii- Moderator
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Thank you :) xx
sarahlou222- BJSF Elite Member
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Just looking at the chart thing they have on their website and it claims the Natrelle collection are covered for CC for only 3 years when in fact they're actually covered for 10 (see HERE )
It's the CUI that are covered for 3 years, not the Natrelle as wrongly documented.
I'm unsure if there's any other discrepancies on the chart, but I think Charlii's looking into that for you all anyway. Xx
It's the CUI that are covered for 3 years, not the Natrelle as wrongly documented.
I'm unsure if there's any other discrepancies on the chart, but I think Charlii's looking into that for you all anyway. Xx
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