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One step closer
Just an update, some lovely ladies have been helping me so far with questions/worries so thought I'd update and prob ask some more questions. I'd been told by different surgeons that I'd need an uplift ( or would ad some stage) so did my research and went back to original surgeon who has a fab cv and is one of the best ( I believe) in my area. I went to him tonight expecting to discuss in detail the uplift procedure etc. I'm quite surprised by how it went! After agreeing the 330cc implants were the look I'm after he has advised me to go for just a ba and maybe uplift in the future if I was really after perfection. He said the operation would b somewhat risky as I'd need under muscle and cud result in losing blood supply to nipple if doing the two procedures in one op ( thinking if I'd chosen the smaller size... 250cc he wud hv done the both)
Anyway....I've decided to go ahead with just ba and with 100 percent confidence he will do the best possible job, he has said high profile unders and only uses mentor. We had a long chat about cc and mentor v pures but he is against those for several reasons,
I'm yet to commit to a date now as....another problem! I hv problems with teeth at the mo and he said need all clear as wont operate otherwise as higher rate of cc with poor teeth...Blimey another obstacle:blush:
I'm going back in 2 weeks to talk some more, he did say he could give me a 7.30 am app for surgery, what time wud I hv to arrive for that?!... Xxx
Anyway....I've decided to go ahead with just ba and with 100 percent confidence he will do the best possible job, he has said high profile unders and only uses mentor. We had a long chat about cc and mentor v pures but he is against those for several reasons,
I'm yet to commit to a date now as....another problem! I hv problems with teeth at the mo and he said need all clear as wont operate otherwise as higher rate of cc with poor teeth...Blimey another obstacle:blush:
I'm going back in 2 weeks to talk some more, he did say he could give me a 7.30 am app for surgery, what time wud I hv to arrive for that?!... Xxx
Doughty- BJSF Addict
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Aw fab who is the surgein
Maybe a 6am admission? Not too sure xxx
Maybe a 6am admission? Not too sure xxx
tinkerbell24- BJSF Elite Member
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Venkat ramakrashan, not v known on forums but spire surgeon baaps/bapras... Iv gone with my head and gut :) good luck with yours...iv seen the countdown xxx
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Itbdoesnt matter if their know or not mines isnt either but love him
Thsnks not long, think everyones seen the countdown loool xx
Thsnks not long, think everyones seen the countdown loool xx
tinkerbell24- BJSF Elite Member
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Would seeing another surgeon for another opinion be an option for you doughty?
Not being able to do a combined uplift and BA is old news babe. This is something some surgeons used to strongly believe in but studies have shown that there's absolutely no rising in the risks from doing a combined surgery at all. You can read the studies [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Also... From all my research the polyeurothane implants are an excellent choice and I've yet to find anything bad about them babe. They are the seemingly increased implant of choice among BAAPS surgeons also (these surgeons wouldn't use anything but the best) but surgeons do need to be specifically trained in positioning them, so I do wonder if your surgeon doesn't yet have the training and this might might be his real reason for not wanting to use them. Did you give you any actual facts about the reasons why he is so against them?
I just think maybe another opinion might be good for you to have something for comparison... Of course its your choice babe and just a suggestion Xx
Not being able to do a combined uplift and BA is old news babe. This is something some surgeons used to strongly believe in but studies have shown that there's absolutely no rising in the risks from doing a combined surgery at all. You can read the studies [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Also... From all my research the polyeurothane implants are an excellent choice and I've yet to find anything bad about them babe. They are the seemingly increased implant of choice among BAAPS surgeons also (these surgeons wouldn't use anything but the best) but surgeons do need to be specifically trained in positioning them, so I do wonder if your surgeon doesn't yet have the training and this might might be his real reason for not wanting to use them. Did you give you any actual facts about the reasons why he is so against them?
I just think maybe another opinion might be good for you to have something for comparison... Of course its your choice babe and just a suggestion Xx
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Oh i thought u had had a few consultations and decided on this surgeob. Def a few consultations are best xx
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If iv replied twice please ignore me :) I did a long old mail and its not here xxx thanks cookie, I did ask him about pures, he said that the studies are not over long period of time...the studies are biased and mostly for brazilian surgeons and he doesn't trust basically. He said he had used them only 10 times but on women who had multiple episodes of cc and usually because of rejection after radiotherapy. He is also concerned with substance as still believes the connection with cancer. He may well be a very cautious surgeon but he does work under spire, nuffield and bmi, also does lots of construction on NHS and doesn't come cheap so I'm feeling like I have to lay my trust on someone, he is baaps and bapras and lectures etc.....I do question every decision and viewpoint but its sending me crazy!
I did see a surgeon b4 who uses brazilians but I felt in my heart that this guy is more experienced. I don't know ?!? I'd feel safe with him and think he is being cautious. You've done so much research and prob seen this sort of thing before...why do u think he would hv said this if it is proved to be as safe ? X
I did see a surgeon b4 who uses brazilians but I felt in my heart that this guy is more experienced. I don't know ?!? I'd feel safe with him and think he is being cautious. You've done so much research and prob seen this sort of thing before...why do u think he would hv said this if it is proved to be as safe ? X
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YI dont know Doughty , but what I do know is that a long time ago (I think 2001, but don't quote me lol) polyeurothane was questioned about links with cancer. They were removed from the market and extensive research was done with them to find out exactly what might be going on - the results were that polyeurothane is safe and march of last year Polyeurothane PURE implants not only proved themselves to be 'safe' but they also got FDA approval!
Just to add - ALL breast implants have a small link to a cancer called anaplastic large cell lymphoma. But its so rare that the FDA found only 60 women of all the millions of women world wide to have got it from breast implants - so with the risks being so small, the FDA see no need for concern. Xx
Just to add - ALL breast implants have a small link to a cancer called anaplastic large cell lymphoma. But its so rare that the FDA found only 60 women of all the millions of women world wide to have got it from breast implants - so with the risks being so small, the FDA see no need for concern. Xx
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Yes iv read that quote you mentioned, its do difficult to know what to do now. I'm more complexed as to y he said it was an issue doing the two ops in one, he was voted one of the top surgeons in uk (don't know if these polls stand for anything). I imagine every surgeon has their preference in what they perform and he said he would use allergen or mentor but as he uses the mentor that would be his preference as he is more familiar with using it. Think spire use allergen so wud also hv to check out aftercare if he is using this product. Thanks cookie...I'm still as confused as ever now :( x
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Awww Doughty, if you're happy with this surgeon and as you said you went with your gut you go for it babe
I'm just correcting information that's wrong for those women considering or who have those implants.
BAAPS surgeons don't only use Mentor and Allergan Natrelles babe, they also use Nagor and the furry Brazilian Pure implants - they use all the best implants on the market but each surgeon will have their implant of choice and that's fine, but it's wrong to suggest things that aren't true that may scare you.
Many BAAPS/BAPRAS surgeons are now using PURE implant including two of the top surgeons in this country: mr Douglas McGeorge (ex BAAPS president) and Mrs Kat (both working through Spire) and they really are becoming more and more popular amongst the surgeons of that calibre, but as I said, these implants aren't easy to place, the surgeons need specialist training in using them and if you don't have that then a surgeon would have complications from using them
So if YOURE happy babe, you go with that gut, as I said, this was only to put right a wrong for ant girls that might be reading sweetie.
I'm just correcting information that's wrong for those women considering or who have those implants.
BAAPS surgeons don't only use Mentor and Allergan Natrelles babe, they also use Nagor and the furry Brazilian Pure implants - they use all the best implants on the market but each surgeon will have their implant of choice and that's fine, but it's wrong to suggest things that aren't true that may scare you.
Many BAAPS/BAPRAS surgeons are now using PURE implant including two of the top surgeons in this country: mr Douglas McGeorge (ex BAAPS president) and Mrs Kat (both working through Spire) and they really are becoming more and more popular amongst the surgeons of that calibre, but as I said, these implants aren't easy to place, the surgeons need specialist training in using them and if you don't have that then a surgeon would have complications from using them
So if YOURE happy babe, you go with that gut, as I said, this was only to put right a wrong for ant girls that might be reading sweetie.
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This thought has been on my mind a lot of times when I read that surgeons are against the furry brazilians!COOKIE wrote:...but surgeons do need to be specifically trained in positioning them, so I do wonder if your surgeon doesn't yet have the training and this might might be his real reason for not wanting to use them. Did you give you any actual facts about the reasons why he is so against them?
And to say that he doesn't "trust" the research by Brazilian surgeons actually makes me super upset. I wonder if he has been to Brazil and have seen how the woman's with implants look over there? I have spent a lot of time there and my personal opinion is that European surgeons need to travel to Latin America and get inspired by the surgeons there.
I have never seen better boobjobs than I have seen in Latin America.
But I think we will see a big change in opinions about this implant when more surgeons are qualified to work with this implant. It might take a couple of years though......
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Oh it's so good to read you're happy to go with surgeon with not reading any feedback on him anywhere. I'm the same i trawled the internet for weeks looking for just 1 girl who'd had surgery with mine, but found nothing, however i felt confident with him & his certs, aaargh i hope, lol coz too late now i've only got 18 days till op.
It'll all be clearer soon Doughty just you keep listening to your gut, our guts are always right just like Mothers x
It'll all be clearer soon Doughty just you keep listening to your gut, our guts are always right just like Mothers x
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In regard to your Dr not wanting to do the two ops in one it may just be that be has been doing his surgeries this way for many years and hasn't wanted to change his style it's just personal preference on his part. Allthough what a DR would usually advise in this case is an uplift first with implants later on, not having an uplift when you need one and having implants placed puts you at very high risk for double bubble - where the breast tissue sags below the implant resulting in the look of 4 boobs.
As for Brazillians, I know some Drs are still very iffy about them, a few Drs I spoke with told me they didn't like them only due to the fact they can be difficult to remove should you need/want a re-op and can make a bit of a mess. Again, I think that is all just personal preference. With something as big as surgery it can be hard to change their ways when what they all ready do works, has done for years and will do for years more.
Good luck x
As for Brazillians, I know some Drs are still very iffy about them, a few Drs I spoke with told me they didn't like them only due to the fact they can be difficult to remove should you need/want a re-op and can make a bit of a mess. Again, I think that is all just personal preference. With something as big as surgery it can be hard to change their ways when what they all ready do works, has done for years and will do for years more.
Good luck x
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Hi Doughty,
I had this surgeon and thought he was great, I'm really happy with the mentors and he couldn't have been more supportive, I did a lot of research which can be a minefield and very confusing but in the end he was best for me..
I think I'm right in saying shootingstar one of the mods had the same surgeon ( I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong) and I think a few other girls have too! X you go for what you feel is right, either way I'm sure you will be happy with the end result x good luck Hun xx
I had this surgeon and thought he was great, I'm really happy with the mentors and he couldn't have been more supportive, I did a lot of research which can be a minefield and very confusing but in the end he was best for me..
I think I'm right in saying shootingstar one of the mods had the same surgeon ( I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong) and I think a few other girls have too! X you go for what you feel is right, either way I'm sure you will be happy with the end result x good luck Hun xx
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Yup, you're right Lee, he was ShootingStars surgeon and also her guardian angel - after her going abroad and having a botch job that was awful, the poor girl went through hell, Mr Ramakrishnan reconstructed her breasts and she's a happy bunny now.
I will say that I'm in no way questioning the surgeons abilities, what I have done is put forward the 'correct' information regarding the polyeurothane implants because otherwise we could well have a lot of very frightened women here who already have these implant or are planning to thinking there might also be so many problems with them and links to cancer, when that's not true at all.
As I said in my previous post a Doughty, if you're happy... Go with your gut babe. I just have a job to do here and I hope you understand that. Xx
I will say that I'm in no way questioning the surgeons abilities, what I have done is put forward the 'correct' information regarding the polyeurothane implants because otherwise we could well have a lot of very frightened women here who already have these implant or are planning to thinking there might also be so many problems with them and links to cancer, when that's not true at all.
As I said in my previous post a Doughty, if you're happy... Go with your gut babe. I just have a job to do here and I hope you understand that. Xx
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Thanks for all your responses. I really hope iv not upset anyone, perhaps in hindsight I should have pmd you cookie to explain his reasoning behind not wanting to use the pures, im sure though that every girl here who has had them did their own research and trusted their own surgeons views on them. Im not saying he is right and am v drawn to them still even with his opinion but really just coming back to you girls after the appointment as iv no one else to turn to (as in no one is interested, or would take hours to go through all the info ive taken in)
Cookie....I totally get you and you come across well in all your points, thankyou :)
Cookie....I totally get you and you come across well in all your points, thankyou :)
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Hiya chick
I've spoken to you before about the uplift so it's great your surgeon thinks you don't need one yet. As you know I had unders with 560cc implants at the same time but every surgeon is different. I also had pures. As long as you're happy with your surgeon and the decisions he has made then that's all that matters. I hope it all goes well for you chick xxxxx
I've spoken to you before about the uplift so it's great your surgeon thinks you don't need one yet. As you know I had unders with 560cc implants at the same time but every surgeon is different. I also had pures. As long as you're happy with your surgeon and the decisions he has made then that's all that matters. I hope it all goes well for you chick xxxxx
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Thank you Lisa, yours look amazing...can't question that :) hope ur healing well.
I Used to be indecisive but now I'm not so sure...lol!
Xxx
I Used to be indecisive but now I'm not so sure...lol!
Xxx
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As a newbie still, it is great for me to hear your journey's. Glad you have found THE surgeon. I guess you just gel with some and maybe not others.
Can't wait until I now the one!
Hope you can pin a date soon. Woop xx
Can't wait until I now the one!
Hope you can pin a date soon. Woop xx
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Aaww thank you, I'm sure you will get the look and the feeling I had! I'm doing really well now thanks, I feel so sexy even though they're in a very unattractive bra totally covered - I know they're there!
I hope it goes well for you and I will check back to hear your updates xx
I hope it goes well for you and I will check back to hear your updates xx
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