Furry Tear Drops

Hi girlies,

I had my first consultation this morning.It went really well, thought the surgeon was great (Mark Gittos at Spire Hartswood). he is very confident he can give me the look and size I want. I took pictures of boobs i like with me and he answered lots of questions and covered all the important areas - complications, placement, recovery etc. He suggested I have tear drops between 360 and 410 cc - we will talk more about sizes at the next consultation.

Now i have 2 dilemas that i need your opinions on please: firstly, i really like Mr Gittos and think he is the surgeon for me. I have another consultation booked for 9th Feb with a mybreast surgeon but I can't find any internet reviews of his boob jobs which makes me nervous. Do i stick with mr Gittos who i trust and think will do an excellent job or do I wait 3 weeks to see this other surgeon only to find i don't trust him as much because i can't find any reviews of his work?

My second dilema is that Mr Gittos suggested the best implant for me will be the new furry type tear drop implant. He has been using these since 2005 in cancer patients and since 2009 in cosmetic patients. His speaks very highly of these. I have just searched silimed implants on this site and found some worrying information, although the risks seem miniscule!I will have to email Mr Gittos to find out the exact brand of implant he uses. Just wanted to know if anyone has had these furry implants? I seem to remember reading of a girl on here who'd had these and thought they were great but I can't find her post.

Any advice/opinions would be great thanks!

Hiya,
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^^^^Is the link for the diary of the lady who had those implants too. I had never heard of them either until her BA so cant really comment on them.
Regarding the other surgeon, I would be inclined to go to the other apt just to see what you make of him. I couldnt find much about my surgeon online either, until I joined this forum. Go with your gut instinct.

Good luck x

I was 'offered' the furry impants by my PS (but he basically put them to one side and looked very relieved when I said I didn't want them!)

My concern would be that the whole basis of them is that you internally 'knit' to the furry texture (which helps reduce CC and rotation) BUT what I wonder is how do they get it out again if there IS any complications or when you need to replace it in 15 years time? By that point it the external shell will be fully bonded to the inside of your breast tissue, so as I see it you'd either have to leave a bit of it inside you, or remove internal breast tissue to get it all out!)

It may be worth asking one of our resident surgeons what they think?

Hi Carolyn - I had the furry implants 2 weeks ago - Jellytot, I asked my surgeon that exact question & he said they if they ever needed to come out, they would need to take marginally more breast tissue away, but that would be replaced by new implants anyway. He also said he didn't agree with changing implants for the sake of it (ie age) but only if there were problems.

Hopefully you read my diary which Mrs G kindly linked you too. I would email Eurosurgical for the pack I got - a fantastic patient DVD which explains everything. I am very happy I have had these implants as they have enabled me to have anatomicals (which I wouldn't have had otherwise). I did loads of research on these before I had them and read loads of patient & clinical articles, plus the clinical paper written in 2007. I also got to watch a recording of the talk the Australian consultant did to the BAAPs consultants in 2009. They seem to be the future for implants. The slight issue with TDA as a potential cancer causing material was proven to be something that happened "in vitro" - ie in a testube as a result of the clinical testing they were doing (it's all in Dr Flemming's paper), rather than "in vivo" (in patients).

Also, I had mine at Spire Bushey which is a full private hospital setting (as is Spire Hartswood I would think) with all supporting specialties so if (in the unlikely event) there are problems during surgery/after, you have all the other specialists on hand, rather that just plastic surgeons (eg cardiologists etc).

Personally I would go with your first consultant & have the furry brazlilians (but I am already sold on them anyway!)

Feel free to PM me if you want to ask more questions?

Hi, thanks girls.

Mrs G - thanks for the link - will have a good read and thanks for the advice to go with my gut feeling. I can't find any boob job reviews about the surgeon I'm yet to see so gut instinct says go with mr Gittos!

Jellytot - good to hear you were offered them too. I have found on the web that taking the implants out takes about 8 mins compared to 1 min for the usual type of implants. I read the surgeon uses his finger to gently separate the furry implant from the tissue - a bit like separating velcro. Def going to look into it more tho!

Lilibet - thanks very much for all your information. Will read your diary and ask for a pack to be sent to me. I really can't believe they would be using implants like this in the UK without them being safe - imagine the consequences! Also, from what my sis in law in australia says (where these implants are used loads), the aussies are so much stricter on cosmetic surgery so if they approve them, that counts for a lot. I keep reminding myself that things change and progress and these are just newer implants based on the most recent research.

thanks again all of you! will update when i have decided what to do.xx

carolyn77 wrote:I really can't believe they would be using implants like this in the UK without them being safe - imagine the consequences!

Hi carolyn, I think you're doing the best thing - lots of research. Just a general word of caution though (not on these furry implants specifically) ... implants have been used in the UK in the past which have turned out to be unsafe and had very serious consequences for the patients - see the PIPS pages on this site. The clinics concerned (usually offering cheap BAs) are believed to have known about the risks at the time. So continue with your research and make sure that you are 100% happy with your final decision. Good luck xxx

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Go with your gut backed up with as much research as you can. This will reasure you about your desision. Non of us know what the future holds regarding future surgery but we all take the chance regardless of type of implant and we know more surgery will be on the cards one day but hopefully many many years down the road. My PS too is a strong believer in just leave them alone as long as they dont hurt or if a lump is found but it a ware and tare issue years down the rd as long as it`s just that it still does`nt mean it has to come out ( if cohesive ) if it dosen`t show outwardly. He thinks these days they are so good there is no need. Good luck in your choice. Trust your gut feelings xxx

Carrie and Wend, thanks for the advice.
I have done some research as suggested by Lilibet and have emailed the PS to ask about the cancer risk. Although these implants aren't on the FDA, apparently most of the implants used in the UK are not on the FDA list as the USA prefers to use saline implants. I am also waiting for the DVD information pack that Lilibet mentioned.
Apparently the main concern about these implants is the risk from the coating breaking down in the body and releasing a chemical which can cause cancer. The FDA say the amount of this chemical found in the urine and blood samples of people with these implants was negligable, and indeed traces have been found in people without the implants! It is the same coating used on other mdeical devices such as pacemakers too.
Think I will go with these implants depending on PS's answers to my questions. Have read alot of info from patients in Australia where these implants are widely used and can't find ay bad reviews yet but i guess it could take a good few years for any bad reactions from the implants to show themselves !
thanks again for advice girls.x

You're very welcome carolyn. Sounds like you've learnt alot about them already and I know that lilibet is thrilled with hers - that's what we all hope for and deserve xx

Hi Carolyn - just one other point - they have apparently been used for the past 40 years but just not in Europe!!

Hi again - I was just googling the Australian doctor & realise I got his name wrong - its Daniel Fleming, not david. ALso interestingly,just found this on his site -

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youtube of an interview with him about them on australian TV

thanks lilibet, I've looked at most of the information you told me about and have seen lots of posts from Aussie forums and it all seems positive.
I did find a letter from the uk's MHRA which was to be sent to PS's. This letter said the benefits proven to them by the implant manufacturer did not in their view outweigh the possible risks of these implants.
I also googled the chemical 2,4-TDA which is the possible carcinogenic chemical released in the breakdown of the implant.There was lots of information to say it may cause cancer but also lots to say it might not cause cancer!
I received the information pack from Eurosurgical today and will watch the DVD later.
Anyhow, I am still very confused and it's all doing my head in! and because I am a worrier by nature, I have decided not to go with these implants because I'll be fretting constantly!
thanks so much for all your help and advice - it's really helped me make an informed decision!xx