About incisions, silicone and horrific scarring...

After doing a load of research I decided I wanted a transauxillary incision, as the underarms don't keloid. Somehow I've completely managed to miss ever hearing that gummies can't be compressed enough to go in that way... I'm pretty sure I want cohesive gel so I don't think I'm gonna go for saline just to go through the armpit.

Either way, I only read that on one site. Is it true? I'm pretty sure I'll be going for 400-450cc dualplane so I guess it'd make sense if that was too hard to do through the armpit, but still, I'm wondering if there are any surgeons anywhere who can do it?

I was also wondering if it can be done through the areola. I might need a little lift with my aug, and I also have a dodgy areola so if they're going in that way I might just get the whole lot fixed. But this has different complications doesn't it? Like increased risk of loss of sensitivity and ability to breastfeed? I'm a big believer in breastfeeding so while I'm not looking to have kids yet, I'd like to be able to when I get around to it. I'd like to take the lowest risk of these things happening. As for nipple sensation, I've already screwed one of them up with a self-piercing when I was a rebellious 15-year-old; I really don't need any more

I'm very reluctant to go for a crease incision - problem is I scar REALLY easily. I'm nearly 20 and I still have scars from when I fell over in a playground at 4/5. I'm absolutely covered in scars due to everything from chicken pox to eczema to car accidents to catscratches to self-harm to acne to twigs... they really don't want to go away =[ I think the main problem is I'm mixed race - my dad's black-African, and my mum's Welsh/Italian white. Black skin always scars easily, which I've inherited, and with my mum being white my skin is light enough for scars to show up a lot more prominently when they do come up.

Essentially, everything scars on me. I'm wondering what everyone else's experiences are with this sort of thing and what incisions you went for? I get there are probably going to be racial differences (I've yet to see a mulatto girl with a boob job...) but any info would really help!

Hey pixie, you're up late tonight! I have major insomnia right now!!!

As far as i am aware, the only implants that can go in through the armpit are saline hun. Silcone ones cant be squished that much, would increase risk of rupture plus you'll see yourself at your consult when you get to play about with them.

When your boobs settle and drop the crease incisions will be up under the breast and so wont be noticeable at all. I too scar very easily and have been pleasently surprised by both how well hidden my scars are, and also how well they have healed. If you use bio-oil or something similar it really does help soften and flatten the scar out.

As for areola incisions i cant help you much there as i dont know much about them. But i reckon that as you are mixed race the scarring there would probably be more noticable no? I dont think areola incisions affect your ability to breastfeed..but once again im sure one of the ladies who've had them can better advise you there hun xx

Lol I've always had sleeping problems, I don't know why but I think I have an extra hour in my body clock or something... I just manage to get up and go to bed later and later and later =S also I can just about get by on 9hrs sleep, need about 10hrs, and like to have 12hrs. Having said that I can easily sleep for 13hrs, and once slept for nearly 20hrs. Really really sucks -_-

I did play around with a silicone implant once but for some reason the incision stuff didn't occur to me. I can't even remember what the nurse said. Hmm.

Thing about scarring on the areola is that 1) I might go for it anyway if I'm gonna have a lift/areola reduction, and 2) if it comes out as a dark scar it'll just fade in. It's sort of hard to tell... I have a massive scrape up my left Achilles tendon from an accident when I was 9, and that's lighter in the bulk of it but darker round the edges. But I also have some old self-harm scars on my arm that are mostly lighter than the rest of my skin. Any other scar normally comes out darker on me but it's hard to tell.

I know crease scars would be hidden but I'm such a perfectionist, lol. the only person who'd ever see the scars anyway if my boyfriend, and I'm guessing he won't care too much, but I don't wanna be lying back and have my scars right out there I guess at the moment I'm likely to go for an areola incision, though again that probably depends on how easily the implant can be pushed through the incision...

Hey dolls...Im up verrrry late too...good questions and convo from you both...I'm worried about scaring because I am black and I havent been able to find many black people with boob jobs showing their scars. It's not really that I'm bothered about it been seen if I was cut under the breast because I know you get the natural fold and I don't really plan on exposing myself anyway...only my boyfriend would see or family members who already know. However I am scared of keiloiding??...I really don't want that, so I suppose. Have a bit of a dilemma

Ugh yeah keloids aren't nice =S I think the scar on my heel is a keloid? I'm not sure. But I heard they can be really painful and itchy as well, which really doesn't sound good =[

There are some pictures of black girls' boob jobs around; I don't know about the scars though... I guess I've never looked it up because my skin doesn't behave like black skin, but then neither does it behave like white skin... I'm gray lol

Lol awwwwww well I have never had keloids or seen anybody I know with them...infact I didn't even know it existed until I started researching boob jobs...that's gotta be a good sign for me doesn't it?

do you always keloid?
Its just i had a big keloid scar on my shoulder after being run over as a teenager, but over time its flattened, and my BA scars havent keloided at all

xbeautifulx - lol yeah sounds like a good sign! I'd seen them on my dad but thought they were just bad scars from a bad accident, never knew they had a particular name! But if you've never had them before that's definitely a good thing

abbie - hmm I guess that depends on how you define keloid? I just Googled it and some of the images are really REALLY bad, I've definitely never had scars that prominent. But my dad (who is 100% black) has a couple so I wondered how easily I might get them? Problem is he grew up in 3rd world Africa in the 70s so I don't know if maybe they could have been avoided had he been able to go to a doctor. As for me personally, I guess I'd say maybe I've never actually had a keloid, but I definitely scar very easily and they take forever to fade - sometimes literally... :(

Hey hun, i bruise and scar Very easily and I am Very Pale. You wouldn't know I had scars 6 odd months on, they were VERY neatly done x

Sorry to hijack the thread but I've only just heard about keloid scarring. Are only black people affected by this? I'm mixed race, is it something I should be worrying about? My surgeon hasn't mentioned anything? Thanks xx

I would say that if you are serious about breast-feeding in the future Pixie, that a nipple incision would not be the one to go for in that respect. I was told that the surgeon has to sever the milk ducts as they make the incision for the implants, and it's touch and go as to whether they will repair themselves. Crease incision should not affect your ability to BF in the future.

In my opinion, wherever you have the scars they are going to be visible to the naked eye. If you think about it, a scar on the nipple or underneath the armpit will be visible to the naked eye without any way of hiding it, whereas a crease incision is hidden by the actual crease of the breast, so you won't actually be able to see it at all unless you physically lift your breast upwards. This is why, in my opinion, it is the best place for the scar.

I think for the surgeon as well it is the neatest and easiest place to make the incision which means they are able to make them nice and neat.

xxx

It's not just black people, but I always hear black people are more prone to keloids than other races. Kinda sucks =\

Yeah I was wondering what'd have to get cut to go in through the areola. I guess maybe I'd have to have a talk with the surgeons and ask what the chances are of them healing up and whether they think that's a good idea or not... I know an armpit incision would still be visible, but it's in a less obvious place, you know? My skin there's kinda unevenly coloured anyway (apparently most girls get a light brown stain when they first start shaving/waxing that goes away after a few months to a year or two... well mine never did >=[ ) so it'd blend in. And some people don't even know to look there for scars from a boob job lol.

I guess in the end I'll see how good the surgeon is, but I just really don't want to have scars under my boobs unless it's the best option for other things and won't be too prominent. I'd have to have a look at their past work and see if they've ever worked on someone with my skin type. Thing about breastfeeding is I'm generally not the healthiest person in the world and I wouldn't want to pass that onto my kids in future, and I heard breastfeeding can help in that sense, and also tends to make them less likely to be under/overweight. I might be wrong, I haven't exactly looked into it in detail, but in the end I think if it comes down to having less obvious scars and not being able to breastfeed or the opposite, I'll probably go for the more obvious scar and ability to breastfeed. Then maybe have the scar lasered and the whole lot redone after I've had my kids :thumbs:

I had areola incision hun and I am amazed at how subtle the scarring is. After 2 weeks I could barely see them and I have most sensation back.

As for breast feeding, this is my only regret(ish). However when I asked our resident surgeon about how much it can affect the ability to breast feed, he said basically about 5-10% of the milk lobule thingys are cut, so although it doesn't stop your ability to breast feed, you MAY produce 5-10% less milk than you would have. i.e. you may have to top up with formula, but at the same time you may not. This put my mind at rest a little as i would have been upset had it completely hindered my ability to breast feed.
xx

Oh right, that's not so bad! I guess I'll do a bit more research before I dive into it lol but supplementing with formula doesn't sound like such a bad thing =]

I think it will be crease scars 4 me unless my PS says otherwise...without having any consultations I think I have decided that I want crease incision, allergen natrelle smooth round implants, and overs. Need to think about projection now I guess and then think about where might be best for me to get it done. Obviously I know all this could change once I have consultations but I still like to think I know what I'm having lol

Hi Pixie
I went through the armpit and I had cohesive gel. I'm in Canada tho. Going through the armpit is specialized and the surgeon has to be trained because its done endoscopically (placement is done with a camera). If you did 400cc it could probably be done through the armpit. You just have to find a surgeon who does it.

I also asked about through the areola and that depends on the size whether or not the implant will fit.

The information that you received about not getting keloids on the underarm is false. I have a friend that has keloid scars on her armpit. The reason that may have less a chance of getting keloids is probably cuz the incision is made on a crease line.
I talked to my surgeon about scaring and the best prevention is silicone gel strips that you can place on top of the incision as its healing.

Hope this helps and good luck xx :allo:

Hmm... weird. Maybe it's just less likely to keloid there or something?

Funny thing is I just tried some 400cc ricies and it was insane... I've done it twice before, with 500s and 450s I think? Or might have been 400s. Either way, the ones I had today + my real boobs ended up bigger than either of the past 2 O_O I knew my boobs had grown but hey apparently I've got hold of a whole 100cc!

So it means I might actually be going for 300-350cc. I wonder if that'll make a difference to the ease of placement? Will have to ask them I guess.

Having said all that... I still want to lose 15-20lbs, which I should probably do before the op, and that'll probably make a difference too...