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Aftercare - what does yours include - lifetime? UK
by misf1 10th April 2012, 3:16 pm
Lets start with life time aftercare (different to implant lifetime guarantee). Firstly what is aftercare?
Aftercare is: Your follow up appointments with nurses and surgeons (these are always free no matter who you go with).
Revision Surgery: this is usually free of charge for a specific time (never a lifetime) for surgery if any complications should arise, scar problems, bottoming out, double bubble etc
Drugs and dressings after surgery and on follow up appointments.
A 24 hour contact number for help should you have a problem (always free)
I can't think of any others at the moment, but the one I'm going to concentrate on is the one thats most important. What if things go wrong, what if there is a problem with your boobs after your op, it's not your fault so do you really want to pay for the whole surgery again? And they charge for taking the implants out so it's usually more expensive than the original surgery. So here it the aftercare for a lot of companies and what their aftercare actually says:
A lifetime after care with the hospital group only applicable for those who had their op after 01-Jun-2010 [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
What it doesn't include:
Revision without clinical indication (e.g. wish you'd gone for a larger size implant)
Further changes due to the natural ageing process (e.g. putting weight on, breast feeding, ageing)
Capsular contracture and implant cover for CUI / Natrelle implants beyond the stated period
What is covered:
CUI (standard) breast implants - 3 years capsular contracture (Baker Grade 4-5) and 10 years implant rupture cover (where clinically indicated)
Natrelle (premium) breast implants - 3 years capsular contracture (Baker Grade 4-5) and lifetime implant rupture cover (where clinically indicated)
But will they really cover a rupture for 10 years or a lifetime?
here is the small print:
Readmission – for up to 3 years after your operation, if, after your
operation, you and your Surgeon agree that further surgery (as part of
the original procedure) is necessary to assist you in achieving the
results originally anticipated, THMG will consider making a contribution
to the surgical and hospital costs. If, however, your Surgeon decides
that the results of the surgical procedure are acceptable within the
normal limits of surgery, then further surgery would incur the full fee.
Even after the agreed term THMG will assess separately the
circumstances of each patient in determining the basis on which
further surgery may be provided. THMG will make the ultimate
decision in readmissions and the Company’s decision is final
6.4 If the Patient fails to attend review appointments or follow advice and
guidance given, or where the results of the surgery originally provided
have been affected by changes in lifestyle, illness or the natural
ageing process, THMG cannot commit to providing continuing surgery
at special rates
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
So there you have it, the hospital group will cover you for surgery for 3 years, but the implants 10 year or lifetime guarantee mean you can have free implants only after the 3 years
Now for Transforms 10 year warrantee [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
what it says: Once you've had your breast procedure with us, your care doesn't end there. As part of our comprehensive aftercare programme, your breast implants are covered through our 10-year warranty scheme. This means that in the unlikely event of a rupture, the implant will be replaced free of charge within a 10-year period.
So it actually is saying quite cleverly, it's only the implant and only if ruptured. You would have to pay all surgery costs (the allegan CUI costs about £100)
What is covered*
What is not covered
Mybreast are very good and I think they explain very well that their aftercare is only for 5-10 years and not a lifetime
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simple and to the point
Our lifetime implant warranty covers rupture and capsular contracture, which means if surgical intervention is required, you will not be charged for your implants. In addition MyBreast covers all your surgical cost in the 5 years after surgery. So you can relax in the knowledge that we have you covered.
What if I suffer complications following discharge from the hospital?
Spire aftercare:
What happens if I suffer complications?
16. While the Hospital and your Consultants will
do their best to ensure a satisfactory outcome,
no clinical procedure is entirely risk-free and the
results of any particular treatment cannot be
guaranteed with complete certainty. You can find
treatment summaries containing information
on a range of treatments, including common
complications, on the Spire website at [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
spirehealthcare.com/Our-Treatments.
17. The Fixed Price includes the cost of treating any
complications at a Spire Hospital for 90 days
following the date of your procedure where
those complications arise directly out of the
treatment you receive as part of your Treatment
Package and are identified within 30 days of your
discharge from Hospital, provided that you have
followed the advice of your Consultants and
any other medical professionals involved in your
Care following the procedure. This treatment
includes any consultations, out-patient, day-care
and in-patient treatment which your Consultant
says you need and which the Hospital agrees
to provide. If we are unable to re-admit you
to the same Hospital we will make the most
appropriate alternative arrangements at another
Spire Group Hospital at no additional cost to you.
Aftercare is: Your follow up appointments with nurses and surgeons (these are always free no matter who you go with).
Revision Surgery: this is usually free of charge for a specific time (never a lifetime) for surgery if any complications should arise, scar problems, bottoming out, double bubble etc
Drugs and dressings after surgery and on follow up appointments.
A 24 hour contact number for help should you have a problem (always free)
I can't think of any others at the moment, but the one I'm going to concentrate on is the one thats most important. What if things go wrong, what if there is a problem with your boobs after your op, it's not your fault so do you really want to pay for the whole surgery again? And they charge for taking the implants out so it's usually more expensive than the original surgery. So here it the aftercare for a lot of companies and what their aftercare actually says:
A lifetime after care with the hospital group only applicable for those who had their op after 01-Jun-2010 [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
What it doesn't include:
Revision without clinical indication (e.g. wish you'd gone for a larger size implant)
Further changes due to the natural ageing process (e.g. putting weight on, breast feeding, ageing)
Capsular contracture and implant cover for CUI / Natrelle implants beyond the stated period
What is covered:
CUI (standard) breast implants - 3 years capsular contracture (Baker Grade 4-5) and 10 years implant rupture cover (where clinically indicated)
Natrelle (premium) breast implants - 3 years capsular contracture (Baker Grade 4-5) and lifetime implant rupture cover (where clinically indicated)
But will they really cover a rupture for 10 years or a lifetime?
here is the small print:
Readmission – for up to 3 years after your operation, if, after your
operation, you and your Surgeon agree that further surgery (as part of
the original procedure) is necessary to assist you in achieving the
results originally anticipated, THMG will consider making a contribution
to the surgical and hospital costs. If, however, your Surgeon decides
that the results of the surgical procedure are acceptable within the
normal limits of surgery, then further surgery would incur the full fee.
Even after the agreed term THMG will assess separately the
circumstances of each patient in determining the basis on which
further surgery may be provided. THMG will make the ultimate
decision in readmissions and the Company’s decision is final
6.4 If the Patient fails to attend review appointments or follow advice and
guidance given, or where the results of the surgery originally provided
have been affected by changes in lifestyle, illness or the natural
ageing process, THMG cannot commit to providing continuing surgery
at special rates
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
So there you have it, the hospital group will cover you for surgery for 3 years, but the implants 10 year or lifetime guarantee mean you can have free implants only after the 3 years
Now for Transforms 10 year warrantee [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
what it says: Once you've had your breast procedure with us, your care doesn't end there. As part of our comprehensive aftercare programme, your breast implants are covered through our 10-year warranty scheme. This means that in the unlikely event of a rupture, the implant will be replaced free of charge within a 10-year period.
So it actually is saying quite cleverly, it's only the implant and only if ruptured. You would have to pay all surgery costs (the allegan CUI costs about £100)
What is covered*
- Implant rupture due to failure of the outer casing
- Major encapsulation (grade 3 and 4)
- Implant deflation
What is not covered
- Removal of implants due to patient dissatisfaction with either size alteration or aesthetic result
- Adverse events or reactions other than specified above in "What is covered"
- Custom made implants or implants over 800cc
- Costs related to interventation surgery
- Removal and / or replacement of implant for wrinkling or rippling.
Mybreast are very good and I think they explain very well that their aftercare is only for 5-10 years and not a lifetime
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
simple and to the point
Our lifetime implant warranty covers rupture and capsular contracture, which means if surgical intervention is required, you will not be charged for your implants. In addition MyBreast covers all your surgical cost in the 5 years after surgery. So you can relax in the knowledge that we have you covered.
What if I suffer complications following discharge from the hospital?
- Mybreast provide no guarantee of the aesthetic or sizing result, however we take steps to ensure that the hospital, consultant and other staff perform to best clinical practice, in terms of pre-and post-operative care, as well as the undertaking of the procedure itself.
- Mybreast will cover surgical cost of re admission to hospital and re-operation if you develop capsular contracture (breast surgery) that is felt [by your consultant] would benefit from surgical intervention or implant rupture within 5 years following your original surgery with Mybreast. In addition your implants carry a lifetime guarantee against capsular contracture and rupture and will be replaced if your surgeon considers you would benefit from replacing them. Please note only one readmission for correction of capsular contracture is included in the aftercare and it does not include cover for pre existing capsular contracture.
- Return to theatre for immediate complications for instances of haematoma or infection.
- The cost of correction of rotation of anatomical implants is not covered.
- Revision surgery may not necessarily be performed by your original surgeon.
- Mybreast DO NOT cover the cost of re operation relating to patient dissatisfaction of implant size. (Breast surgery).
- Mybreast offers to all patients’ free follow up and advice for life whenever necessary regarding implant related problems (Breast surgery).
Spire aftercare:
What happens if I suffer complications?
16. While the Hospital and your Consultants will
do their best to ensure a satisfactory outcome,
no clinical procedure is entirely risk-free and the
results of any particular treatment cannot be
guaranteed with complete certainty. You can find
treatment summaries containing information
on a range of treatments, including common
complications, on the Spire website at [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
spirehealthcare.com/Our-Treatments.
17. The Fixed Price includes the cost of treating any
complications at a Spire Hospital for 90 days
following the date of your procedure where
those complications arise directly out of the
treatment you receive as part of your Treatment
Package and are identified within 30 days of your
discharge from Hospital, provided that you have
followed the advice of your Consultants and
any other medical professionals involved in your
Care following the procedure. This treatment
includes any consultations, out-patient, day-care
and in-patient treatment which your Consultant
says you need and which the Hospital agrees
to provide. If we are unable to re-admit you
to the same Hospital we will make the most
appropriate alternative arrangements at another
Spire Group Hospital at no additional cost to you.
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Re: Aftercare - what does yours include - lifetime? UK
by COOKIE 11th April 2012, 6:16 pm
I'm so glad you brought this up misf1. We had a thread all about this very thing a while ago [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and it was deeply concerning how little some knew or were hoodwinked into believing they were getting more than they were for their money by cleverly disguising the small print...
It's definately worth carefully reading over the after-care policy before signing anything for sure!
It's definately worth carefully reading over the after-care policy before signing anything for sure!
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Re: Aftercare - what does yours include - lifetime? UK
by Lorna1 7th August 2012, 8:47 pm
misf1 wrote:
Readmission – for up to 3 years after your operation, if, after your
operation, you and your Surgeon agree that further surgery (as part of
the original procedure) is necessary to assist you in achieving the
results originally anticipated, [b">THMG will consider making a contribution
to the surgical and hospital costs. If, however, your Surgeon decides
that the results of the surgical procedure are acceptable within the
normal limits of surgery, then further surgery would incur the full fee.
Even after the agreed term THMG will assess separately the
circumstances of each patient in determining the basis on which
further surgery may be provided. THMG will make the ultimate
decision in readmissions and the Company’s decision is final
6.4 If the Patient fails to attend review appointments or follow advice and
guidance given, or where the results of the surgery originally provided
have been affected by changes in lifestyle, illness or the natural
ageing process, THMG cannot commit to providing continuing surgery
at special rates
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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So there you have it, the hospital group will cover you for surgery for 3 years, but the implants 10 year or lifetime guarantee mean you can have free implants only after the 3 years
Do you mean
THMG - The Harley Medical Group
or
THG - The Hospital Group?
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Re: Aftercare - what does yours include - lifetime? UK
by COOKIE 7th August 2012, 8:49 pm
That would be The Harley Medical Group babe. xx
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Re: Aftercare - what does yours include - lifetime? UK
by Lorna1 7th August 2012, 8:55 pm
Why do The Hospital Group refer to The Harley Medical Group in their terms?
Now I am worried.
x
Now I am worried.
x
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Re: Aftercare - what does yours include - lifetime? UK
by Lorna1 7th August 2012, 8:56 pm
Sorry, I would edit the post if I could...
Just realised they also call themselves The Hospital Medical Group (THMG). I assume they are NOTHING to do with The Harley Medical Group?
Just realised they also call themselves The Hospital Medical Group (THMG). I assume they are NOTHING to do with The Harley Medical Group?
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Re: Aftercare - what does yours include - lifetime? UK
by COOKIE 7th August 2012, 9:00 pm
You actually got it right and I got it wrong Lorna 
There are links throughout misf1s post that direct you to The Hospital Group. xx
There are links throughout misf1s post that direct you to The Hospital Group. xx
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Re: Aftercare - what does yours include - lifetime? UK
by Lorna1 7th August 2012, 9:04 pm
cookie wrote:You actually got it right and I got it wrong Lorna
I have never heard of The Hospital Group being referred to as THMG, so I was a bit confused (and concerned). Seems like it's just coincidence that their letters are the same. xx
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Re: Aftercare - what does yours include - lifetime? UK
by COOKIE 7th August 2012, 9:29 pm
Nor me Lorna. This is a first for me too. 
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Re: Aftercare - what does yours include - lifetime? UK
by xxlauren90xx 8th August 2012, 12:16 am
I have 5 years with mya, my friend had 3 with Harley medical x
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Re: Aftercare - what does yours include - lifetime? UK
by icecream 8th August 2012, 2:37 am
Wow, i'ma so glad I came across this thread. I need to ask my ps about this because I believe it's done differently here in Dubai and I don't remember signing any aftercare paper. But the ps did mention that all is inclusive in what I paid, except if I decide I am unsatsified w/ the size, etc. I'm not too sure about encapsulation and the other things mentioned above!
Good thing I have an appointment on Sat that I can clarify this. Thanks for the post!
Good thing I have an appointment on Sat that I can clarify this. Thanks for the post!
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