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Post by RexieP on 28th December 2013, 1:09 pm

So I had overs originally and now I have partial unders. As most of you know I am not having a good time with them and I hate them.  I was not aware of the muscle distortion before I changed to unders but its awful it makes me feel sick and they twitch all the time. I don't work out but I lift my children and a lot of stuff a lot of the time so I use them a lot. Also the muscle is holding the left one very high causing empty skin beneath it. I want to have them moved back to overs, am happy to keep these implants so I just want the placement changed. I am seeing my surgeon on 17th jan to discuss this but wondered has anyone had a placement change with the same implants? What was the recovery like time/pain wise? Is it like the original op? Also is it the same 6 week recovery/no lifting etc?

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Post by COOKIE on 28th December 2013, 3:12 pm

We have had quite a few women have a placement change Rexie and for the very problem you seem to be having with the muscle distortion. Your muscle is simply to tight for the implants and as your muscle is contracting, it will force the implant upwards into an unnatural position. 

The healing is nothing like what what you've just had. The stretching is done, the pocket is made and its simply a case of moving the implant from behind the muscle to going in front of it. The recovery is very fast indeed hun. 

If your surgeon feels your implants would benefit from having some support to prevent further rotation then there is a relatively new technique called 'subfacial' placement. 

The subfacial technique is a sort of combined over/under method, so you get the benefit of the implant being supported, but you don't have to deal with the muscle distortion. So maybe this is something you could discuss with your surgeon lovely.

You can see in the diagram below how a subfacial placement looks. Xx


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Post by RexieP on 28th December 2013, 3:24 pm

Hi Cookie that does look good actually I will definitely discuss it with him. Thats great to know that its much easier as I cannot face another 6 weeks or more of recovering and not being able to do much!  Do you know if I would still need to wait 6 months from the op to have it done or if because its a smaller op could it be done after say 4 months?xx
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Post by COOKIE on 28th December 2013, 3:33 pm

Its very possible if your surgeon feels it necessary I might add babe because I wouldn't want to get your hopes up that it could be done around that time yes. Xx

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Post by RexieP on 28th December 2013, 3:41 pm

I am trying not to get my hopes up but I am a little hopeful, he has seen me twice since the op both times I explained I'm not happy and he his words were "I'll do whatever I need to to make it right, don't worry" so I am hopeful that when I go back on 17th he will agree to schedule the placement change. They feel so uncomfortable and I'm really aware of them all the time, every muscle twitch leaves a lasting sensation afterwards and they really jump about when my muscles tense, theres no way I could wear a low cut top and lift my son up for example. Plus the issue with the left being held too high, I think hopefully he will agree the placement is wrong for me and agree to change it. I've spent £10,000 in total with the guy so I hope he will agree to do it for just hospital costs especially as the last £5k op has been traumatic and wrong!
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Post by COOKIE on 28th December 2013, 3:46 pm

I'm sure he'll take good care of you Rexie. 

You opted for an excellent choice of surgeon and its their reputation at stake if you're not happy babe, so its in their best interest to get this sorted for you.

My original BA ended up costing me the same, so I know how stressful this is not only financially hun, but mentally also, on you...and your family who are the ones having to watch you go through this.  Hug 

I'm very sure you'll have some kind of plan of action sweetheart. Do be sure you place a lot of emphasis on the fact that this is impinging on your quality of life.

Once that ball gets thrown in, there's no passing it back hun and they'll have to act on. Xx

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Post by RexieP on 28th December 2013, 3:50 pm

Thats great advice thank you so much. I have made sure I have emailed my concerns so there are written copies of everything and he is very thorough with his notes etc. He is a great guy and I almost feel bad going in and sounding critical but I know I have to stress how unhappy and uncomfortable I am. I hope you are right and he agrees, I suspect he will but I think I won't feel better until I know it is all in place and I can count down to reop day once more.xx
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Post by mirren001 on 28th December 2013, 3:53 pm

Sorry to hear you're having this trouble with muscle distortion, won't be long before you see your surgeon again and hopefully you won't have to wait too long before getting it sorted!
I don't have muscle distortion but was very aware of my implants and hated the feeling anytime I did something that involved using my pecs, its was a good 3months before the muscle relaxed and this feeling went and the implants felt a part off me. XXX
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Post by COOKIE on 28th December 2013, 3:56 pm

After 4 re-ops myself babe, I can totally relate  yes 

Its bloody draining and no-one could ever understand how much this can actually take out of you when your sat in hope with no answers at all until....your appointment day arrives. Even that you feel sick, you're tearful, you're. Bag of nerves because you just want 'nice boobs' you want the boobs you paid for. 

Having a complication is a bloody tough road to go down babe, but all the re-ops here have ended up with happy ladies, including myself - you're gonna get there Rexie and in the meantime babe, you lean on us all you need to  group hug

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Post by RexieP on 28th December 2013, 4:23 pm

Thanks Mirren thats reassuring however they look really weird so I don't think I can keep them even if I get used to the feeling!

Yes Cookie that's exactly how it is, I get so upset about it when I shower or change cos I have to look at them. It gets me so down. I don't know what I'd do without this forum as I think I'd drive my husband and friends mad! Its nice to be able to be completely open and know I'm supported and will get helpful advice.  I will keep ypu posted on what my surgeon says. I apologise in advance cos no doubt I will continue to moan! It definitely helps to get out though, think I'd actually go insane otherwise!xx
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Post by mirren001 on 28th December 2013, 7:09 pm

It's not moaning Rexie  Hug , don't ever feel like that! We are hear to support each other so no need to appologise, post away! X
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Post by tinkerbell24 on 28th December 2013, 7:16 pm

Aw so bad ur still feeling so bad about them i cant feel anything wrong but just dont like them much in or out clothes

Def keep us updated xx
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Post by mirren001 on 28th December 2013, 8:11 pm

tinkerbell24 wrote:Aw so bad ur still feeling so bad about them i cant feel anything wrong but just dont like them much in or out clothes

Def keep us updated xx

Tink, are you seeing changes in them from re op? probably got lots more settling still to do before you're anywhere near your final result. When are you to see your PS again? hopefully he will reassure you once he see's you in person!   Hug x
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Post by mirren001 on 28th December 2013, 8:13 pm

RexieP wrote:Thanks Mirren thats reassuring however they look really weird so I don't think I can keep them even if I get used to the feeling!
mirren001 wrote:was wondering if it could be that your muscle just needs to be released a little more ? X



Yes Cookie that's exactly how it is, I get so upset about it when I shower or change cos I have to look at them. It gets me so down. I don't know what I'd do without this forum as I think I'd drive my husband and friends mad! Its nice to be able to be completely open and know I'm supported and will get helpful advice.  I will keep ypu posted on what my surgeon says. I apologise in advance cos no doubt I will continue to moan! It definitely helps to get out though, think I'd actually go insane otherwise!xx
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Post by tinkerbell24 on 28th December 2013, 8:14 pm

Slight changes not much  nope i see my.surgeon on the 11th jan so.hope he feels theres changes xx
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