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Post by g0902 on 14th June 2013, 1:02 pm

I am going to email my clinic now about it. I was under the impression by the wording that just "all patients" we're covered. Do most issues generally arise within the first 2years? I know they can occur at any stage but would it be most likely while the implAnt is adapting? I reckon I'd kick myself if I didn't go for it lol is there any more info on the specifics cookie? :-) like does CC have to be a certain grade? Or just any signs on cc are covered? xxx

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Post by Blueeyedsoul13 on 14th June 2013, 1:03 pm

G, vix said above that apparently only grade 3 and 4 are covered?
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Post by g0902 on 14th June 2013, 1:03 pm

Yjust reading vix's comment about grade 3 or 4... Allergen cover these grades Ro the implants and £700 towards surgery costs.. Hmmmm xx

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Post by Vix85 on 14th June 2013, 1:04 pm

I had a look at the policy document and it's grade 3and4only. I'll get the link and let you know the address xx
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Post by Vix85 on 14th June 2013, 1:05 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] here you go, let me know if you have problems accessing the policy documents from it xxx
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Post by g0902 on 14th June 2013, 1:06 pm

That would be fab vix thanks! Does that mean we would have to wait until our cc is grade 3/4? I heard it can be very uncomfortable and if it was to occur I'd want a reop sooner rather than later.... Decisions!! xx

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Post by Vix85 on 14th June 2013, 1:06 pm

also, depending on how much cover you apply for, the full cost would be covered xx
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Post by g0902 on 14th June 2013, 1:15 pm

Very interesting to read... I'm it's confused as to why my surgeon wouldn't have mentioned the policy as he is a full baaps member...  I'm just thinking though with allergen they cover the implAnts (£800 each for mine and £700 surgery) which amounts to £2300 - quite a significant amount of money towards costs and this is lifetime.... Ahh will have to talk this through with my mum and maybe book an appt ith my surgeon? xx

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Post by COOKIE on 14th June 2013, 1:15 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I am going to email my clinic now about it. I was under the impression by the wording that just "all patients" we're covered.

All patients ARE covered by BAAPS members if they pay the additional fee lovely. Im surprised surgeons arent discussing it with their patients when they have their consulations actually. but i suppose this is as new to the surgeons as it is to us.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Do most issues generally arise within the first 2years?

complications can happen at time after surgery lovely. They aren't limited to a time.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I know they can occur at any stage but would it be most likely while the implAnt is adapting?

not at all... there are never any guarantees when you have this surgery and at any time whilst the implant is implanted, aside from complications due to the 'surgery' rather than the implants you never know when your implants will require revision.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I reckon I'd kick myself if I didn't go for it lol is there any more info on the specifics cookie? :-)

this is the only information so far released about the insurance, if you'd like to know more about it id advise you arrange a consultation with your surgeon love,y to find out more from them.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:does CC have to be a certain grade? Or just any signs on cc are covered? xxx

surgeons would only allow aftercare and I would presume the same would be applied for insurance purposes a re-op when CC got to Baker grade 3 or 4 xx

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Post by g0902 on 14th June 2013, 1:19 pm

Thanks cookie for that information... Definitely food for thought. I'm just hoping its not too late for me to apply! I had unders too so I know the risk of CC is significantly lower than overs... But I don't want to regret it months/years down the line! xx

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Post by Vix85 on 14th June 2013, 1:21 pm

its definitely worth looking discussion with your surgeon. like you say, I would think they would be advertising this all over the place, but maybe they aren't aware of it? !? my surgeons sec had to do some ringing aroundand research about it before she got back to me and it sounded as though he wasn't really aware of it xxx
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Post by COOKIE on 14th June 2013, 1:22 pm

Well we ARE aware of it and we'll MAKE the BAAPS surgeons  aware of it too! Hysterical

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Post by 5stonedown on 23rd June 2013, 4:50 pm

This is fab news... I will be asking Mrs Kat about this at my consult next week for my tummy tuck surgery!
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Post by hangle123 on 23rd June 2013, 5:10 pm

I'm still having trouble with Spire about this; numerous emails have been sent with all the links and information but they haven't really looked into this for me and provide me with an answer. I will chase them again, haven't had the energy this week! X
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Post by COOKIE on 23rd June 2013, 5:25 pm

Contact BAAPS Hangle and explain that although the press release explains that this is on place now, you're not getting any kind of response regarding this from Spire. Hopefully they will deal with this on your behalf. Xx

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Post by hangle123 on 23rd June 2013, 5:56 pm

Thank you again cookie! Have emailed them so will keep you posted on their reply xx
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Post by COOKIE on 23rd June 2013, 5:59 pm

:ok: Its their press release, so if anyone can help, they should be able to. Xx

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Post by hangle123 on 24th June 2013, 4:13 pm

Quick update, got a reply from BAAPS:

The ASC insurance scheme is a voluntary scheme that has recently been launched for use by our members in their practice. It is not something the BAAPS has been directly involved in formulating. It is also not something all members will consider is necessary for the continued safe operation of their practice.

I am sorry I cannot give you more information.
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Post by Vix85 on 24th June 2013, 4:36 pm

well that isn't very helpful! The way the article was written made it sound like all baaps members should be offering it. has your surgeon got back to you yet? xxx
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Post by COOKIE on 24th June 2013, 4:41 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:It is not something the BAAPS has been directly involved in formulating.  

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It is also not something all members will consider is necessary for the continued safe operation of their practice

The above is quoted from the BAAPS press release so the email you recieve just doesnt reflect what BAAPS actually released stating that it was they who worked with insurers to get ASC up and going.

Nowhere on the release does it state that the insurance is voluntary either shrug infact quite the contrary: 

“We’re proud to have been working over the last year to help design a tailor-made policy based on comprehensive data and sound statistical analysis. Not only does this product directly address the issues highlighted by the Government’s review but it is also ready to be fully implemented. During these turbulent times in our sector, patients deserve a formal commitment."



Now either I'm reading this release completely wrong.... Or, I'm thinking BAAPS prematurely released this information BEFORE getting all of their surgeons on board and actually 'in the loop' Rolling Eyes

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Post by hangle123 on 24th June 2013, 5:49 pm

I referred to their press release when I enquired. I've got an appointment with my surgeon on 3rd July for a check up so can always bring it up then. Only other option I can think of is speaking to his secretary, although will she be able to help or is this something I would have to go through Spire with? X
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Post by Vix85 on 24th June 2013, 6:05 pm

when I did it hangle, it was with my surgeons secretary, it may be differentefor you but certainly worth a mention to your surgeon when you see him if not before xx
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Post by kel70 on 7th July 2013, 10:08 pm

hangle123 how did you get on with Spire/Mr Armstrong on this subject. He is doing mine too so would be very interested to know. Ta x
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Post by hangle123 on 8th July 2013, 6:17 am

Hi kel- still not having any luck with this! X
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Post by kel70 on 8th July 2013, 6:29 am

Maybe if I have a go too it would help? if they get more than 1 request. I'll email or phone today x
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